Saturday 9 November 2019

Everyday TR1 - V-star conversion (part 3)

Well there you go, one more for the classic category of: "This gonna be a quick un'..." In defense of my slightly under par project-management, I had to move workshop and get lots of other stuff done in the meantime.

If you're only interested in the result, there you go:


In case you actually want to read the whole lot with all the pitfalls, well here you go.

First off, I had to order more parts. When overhauling a Virago 1100 crank last year, I used up the bearing shells I wanted to use for this build and as one of the pistons had a slight ding, two new pistons were thrown in "just for good measure".



And then there was the reason, why this post could also be called "a new approach" - I also bought a new set of cylinders and decided NOT to turn them down but bore the cases to suit. 


So I got a set of cylinders with absolutely like new tolerances, masked and painted them.


Since the previous post only a single had passed, but nonetheless the BT1100 crank had  spent the night in the freezer. Unlike the new crankshaft roller bearing, which took a really hot bath in some fresh oil.



If you do it right, the bearing and oil-pump-chain sprocket basically slide right on.


The thing is the "doing it right" part. The crankshaft has got some eight or nine kilograms of thermal mass and the bearing maybe five-hundred grams. The bearing went on nicely, but the oilpump sprocket simply cooled down too quickly and had to be asked quite forcefully to take its place. Unfortunately the sprocked I used to drive it on still seated nicely on the crank. With a knife-puller and quite a bit of heat it wasn't too hard to get off though.



Next it was about time to actually get started on the bike, with quite a bit of the prep work being done already.




But first we needed two more special tools. The first being a spacer for pressing out the crank without damaging the bearing cage.


As the tube was close but not big enough, I built up a lip with the welder in order to have some meat to turn it down.



The second was a slice of old TR1 cylinder with the liner removed and bored on the lathe to 105mm.


I am not to take credit for this insanely smart idea on how to bore cylinders, but another member from the German TR1-Forum came up with this seemingly brilliant idea. (And as it seemed so simple, this was the reason for me to switch over from turned-down cylinders to boring the cases.)


Digging into the engine revealed no nasty surprises. I knew it was burning oil like it was going out of style, so there was a lot of carbon buildup but the bright ring on the piston and cylinder head made me very, very happy as it means that even when burning heaps of oil, the squishband works like it should pushing the mixture towards the center of the combustion chamber.



With the engine case mostly gutted, it was finally light enough to be able to lift it onto the workbench alone.



The new crank-tool worked admirably, as it slotted in perfectly.



Next was boring the cases with the holesaw, which undeniably worked, but I had made the clearance between holesaw and my guide slightly to big, which meant that I had to use some masking tape to get the tolerances tighter and still it kicked back violently. After some long thinking, I have to admit, if I were to do it again, I'd rather take the studs out and do it on the mill.



Some old newspaper to protect the gearbox bearings from swarf is absolutely necessary and worked a lot better than anticipated. 


The finish I achieved is absolutely abyssmal, but then again in reality all it has to do is clear the outside of the liner, so going about it with a die-grinder would have been a perfectly acceptable way as well. (At least from a technical standpoint.)



The crank still needed fresh bearing shells. Even though strictly speaking wanted is probably the wrong term to use. I wanted to put in fresh shells to make sure I get the conrods towards the tight end of the specs to get as much life (and oilpressure) out of them as possible. I installed them with some assembly lube, which should bite me quite extensibly a little later down the line.


With the crank done it was a case of heating up the bearing seat and install the crank. 



On other thing I wanted to do before reassembling the cases was something I did for the "Norway engine" for the first time and that was to mirror polish the gear selector guide rod. (Spoiler alert: worth every second as the shifts are much smoother now)



Before installing the oilpump, I have started to always prime them with some oil simply because it shortens down the time until it builds up oil-pressure significantly.


With that out of the way it was time to button up the engine cases.


And attach it to the rear subframe. (And yes, I think I got my money's worth out of the rear tyre.)


One note to assembling the pistons and rings: On OEM pistons the second ring is the dark one and yes, the R-mark is on the left side of the ring with the text so you can read it from the top.


One of the piston clips can be pre-installed on the bench and with the other one being put on, once the piston is on the conrod, plenty of rags help to stabilize the piston and also make dropping the clip into the engine a lot more difficult. 



Another thing I started to do is oil the threads on the cylinder studs and run the nuts up and down a few times. This removes a lot of dirt, rust, etc. from the threads, also in theory the clamping force should be higher as less of the torque used to tighten the nuts is used up in friction. Might all be more or less engineering esoterics, but it gives me the warm fuzzy feeling of doing it right. And a lot of aftermarket stud companies give you special lubricants to put on the threads to achieve more repeatable results, so there's certainly a grain of truth in there. Will it make one hell of a difference? Probably not. But it certainly slows down rust build up, which in its own right is good enough for me.



The following picture is probably classic nightmare-material for most people, but I was very happy to see it actually. As it gave me a good excuse as to why I am always double and triple checking my timing marks. Turns out the right side of the cam-chain hadn't been properly tight and as such the time was off by a tooth.


With an enclosed chain, it's always a bit hard to find the clip-link, so painting it white should make it easier to spot through the little peep-hole. Also as the locking plate for the sprocket isn't available anymore loctited AND safety-wired bolts secure the sprocket. It worked for 6000km the last time so I think the idea is good enough.  


And a final "oooops"-moment: On the front cylinder a small chunk has to be taken out or you will not be able to get the oil-filler cap off. (Diegrinder to the rescue!)


Last but not least, the old Tractor almost completed.


So what's the verdict of the rebuild: It's not exactly a straight-forward swap as lots of parts need to be touched to make stuff fit. But the tighter tolerances make for a vastly quieter engine. And the substantial (around 4kg or almost a third compared to the previous Virago 1100 rotating assembly) reduction of rotating mass makes for an explosive character of the engine under 4000rpm. From then onwards it behaves more like the old engine. Interesting as well and once you think about it, not overly surprising: The rock-solid idle it used to have is at least partially gone. In the past, you fired it up on the choke, gave it fifteen to thirty seconds and it would idle, very low, but it would idle. Now it actually cuts out and stalls.

4 comments:

  1. something i realized while looking at all of this. the american 920 used the o-ring style head gasket that sits inside the cylinder groove. as the rest of the world used composite hg. if one was to switch to a composite h.g. (of course with v-star cylinders) and use old heads, would that cause a drop in compression or some other less desirable side effects?

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    1. The TR1 used the same asbestos-gasket-rings, with the switch to the XV1000/XV1100 family they switched over to the mls-gaskets. Just make sure the old head isn't marred from the gasket ring and other than that, I haven't noticed any issues yet.

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  2. I see that upgrading a TR1 with a XV/BT1100 oil pump is recommended by more than a few people. Is this only because of the larger oil pump screen, or are there more advantages (better oil pressure)?

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  3. Hi Paul, the gears are a bit wider as well, but mostly it's about the much bigger oilpump-screen, which makes a hell of a difference. As the original ones always seem to be at least partially clogged up. Also late (1982/83) TR1s came with this later pump from the factory, so depending what year your engine is, you may already have this installed. I hope to soon be in the position to play around with a new oilpump-sprocket, but I am having issues in sourcing a DECENT chain. This would allow me to spin the pump around 11% faster than stock and should eliminate the oil-pressure issues at idle on hot days.

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